Legislature(1997 - 1998)

04/24/1997 08:41 AM Senate FIN

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       HB 145 TEACHING COMPETENCY EXAM FOR CERTIFICATION                       
                                                                               
       COCHAIR  PEARCE  MOVED  to adopt  the  SCS  work draft,                 
       version  H.    SENATOR  ADAMS   objected.    There  was                 
       discussion regarding  the fiscal  note.   SENATOR ADAMS                 
       withdrew  his  objection  and  SCS  CSHB  145(FIN)  was                 
       ADOPTED.     Testimony   was  heard   from  JOHN   CYR,                 
       REPRESENTATIVE  BUNDE  and DR.  NANCY  BUELL.   SENATOR                 
       DONLEY  MOVED   Amendment  #1.     Without   objection,                 
       Amendment #1  was ADOPTED.   COCHAIR  PEARCE MOVED  the                 
       bill  from  committee with  individual recommendations.                 
       SENATOR ADAMS objected.   By a vote of 5  to 2, SCSCSHB
       145(FIN)  was REPORTED  OUT  with a  forthcoming fiscal                 
       note from the Department of Education (100.0).                          
  CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 145(HES)                                               
  "An Act relating to certification of teachers."                              
                                                                               
  COCHAIR PEARCE noted the SCS work draft, version H, that was                 
  before  the  committee.   She  read  the  language  that was                 
  incorporated into the draft on page 2, line 3 "and for other                 
  charges assessed against teachers as part of certification";                 
  line 5: "relating to the certification of teachers"; line 6:                 
  "when  added to the other fees collected from teachers"; and                 
  line  7:  "to  the  fees  for  certification  of  teachers".                 
  COCHAIR PEARCE MOVED for  adoption of the work draft  as SCS                 
  CSHB 145(FIN).    SENATOR ADAMS  objected.   He inquired  if                 
  there was a new  fiscal note applicable to the  SCS and what                 
  services  teachers would  receive  for the  increased  cost.                 
  There was no new fiscal note.  COCHAIR PEARCE commented that                 
  the  purpose  was to  have  teachers  pay the  full  cost of                 
  certification and licensing through their  fees, as do other                 
  occupational  and  professional  licensees.   SENATOR  ADAMS                 
  inquired about the difference in cost now and as a result of                 
  the bill.  COCHAIR PEARCE estimated  it would be an increase                 
  of  approximately $42 for  a five-year  renewal, and  it was                 
  still  one of  the lowest professional  license fees  in the                 
  state.                                                                       
                                                                               
  SENATOR  ADAMS  withdrew  his  objection.   There  being  no                 
  further objection, SCS CSHB 145(FIN) was ADOPTED.                            
                                                                               
  JOHN CYR,  President, NEA-Alaska,  addressed the  committee.                 
  He testified that  he had supported the  bill throughout the                 
  legislative process,  but now  had to  speak in  opposition.                 
  Although  he  favored   a  formal   screening  process   for                 
  applicants for certification,  the SCS raised fees  by fifty                 
  percent.  He noted that a new applicant had to pay a license                 
  fee of approximately  $450 to  $500 just to  look for  work.                 
  MR.  CYR   suggested  allowing  the   NEA,  a   professional                 
  association,  to  handle  certification  and  policing  with                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  legislative  oversight.    In response  to  a  question from                 
  SENATOR ADAMS,  he stated  no additional  services would  be                 
  added  with an increase  in fees and  that minimal oversight                 
  could allow fees to escalate.                                                
                                                                               
  COCHAIR PEARCE questioned why teachers  should be in a class                 
  unto  themselves  with   regard  to  paying  the   costs  of                 
  certification.  MR. CYR  responded that certification  costs                 
  were  being covered.   He added that  other professions were                 
  free to charge what the market would bear, but that teachers                 
  were in a  different circumstance  because their income  was                 
  regulated through  a bargaining  procedure and  unlike other                 
  professionals such as  doctors and lawyers, teachers  were a                 
  part  of  the state  in  that  they worked  for  the state's                 
  political subdivisions.   He suggested that the Professional                 
  Teaching Practices Commission have a  bigger role in looking                 
  at certification  requirements if  teachers would  be paying                 
  more.    MR.  CYR  stated  he  would  like  to  see  NEA  be                 
  responsible for certification.                                               
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE CON BUNDE addressed the  committee.  He noted                 
  the  purpose  of  the  bill  was  to address  the  need  for                 
  screening tests, commenting that the emphasis had shifted to                 
  fees.  He  encouraged the committee  to refocus on the  main                 
  purpose.  He suggested a two-tiered fee system be considered                 
  for new  certification and recertification.   COCHAIR PEARCE                 
  noted the  department already  did that and  nothing in  the                 
  bill would prevent the continuation.                                         
                                                                               
  End of  HB 145 on SFC-97,  # 127, Side  1, (500).   (At this                 
  point, the tape skips to SB 11.)                                             
                                                                               
  Begin SFC-97, #128, Side 1 (000)                                             
                                                                               
  SENATOR   PHILLIPS  inquired   if   NEA  supported   general                 
  proficiency  testing  as  part  of  high  school  graduation                 
  requirements.    MR. CYR  commented  that it  was  a complex                 
  issue.  He supported competency for graduates but believed a                 
  one-time test was not the best way to go.  He  elaborated on                 
  the issue.                                                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR DONLEY noted the new language in Section 2 and asked                 
  if a delayed effective date for that section could phase the                 
  process in.                                                                  
                                                                               
  DR. NANCY  BUELL, Director, Teaching  and Learning  Support,                 
  Department  of   Education,   responded   that   a   delayed                 
  implementation date would  allow a more orderly  process and                 
  would be easier for the population  it addresses.  There was                 
  additional discussion about an effective date.                               
                                                                               
  SENATOR DONLEY MOVED Amendment #1,  adding an effective date                 
  of  July  1,  1998 for  Section  2  of  the bill.    Without                 
  objection, Amendment #1 was ADOPTED.                                         
                                                                               
                                                                               
  COCHAIR PEARCE MOVED the bill from committee with individual                 
  recommendations.  SENATOR ADAMS objected.                                    
                                                                               
  A roll call vote was taken on the MOTION.                                    
  IN FAVOR: PHILLIPS, TORGERSON, PARNELL, PEARCE, SHARP                        
  OPPOSED:  DONLEY, ADAMS                                                      
                                                                               
  And so,  by a vote of 5 to  2, SCSCSHB 145(FIN) was REPORTED                 
  OUT with a  forthcoming fiscal note  from the Department  of                 
  Education (100.0).                                                           
                                                                               

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